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i wondered why did Assef raped Hassan in the book
ReplyDeletebecause it's just weird
Jake... would you say you were a fan of chapter 7 or did you find it disgusting?
ReplyDeleteI thought the hole rape scene was totally messed up
ReplyDeleteI don't understand why Amir kept hurting Hassan, can someone explain?
ReplyDeleteCarlos- I think it is to show that Assef is stronger than Hassan. Like in jail when people get raped it shows that they aren't as powerful.
ReplyDeleteI think Assef raped Hassan to belittle him for being a Hazara.
ReplyDeletei agree with everyone assef is seriously damaged i think he needs to see a psychiatrist
ReplyDeleteI don't know about anyone else but i thought Assef was going to hit Hassan with his brass knuckles but then when it said he took his pants off, I was just really disturbed.
ReplyDeleteHes a fan of Hitler so hes probably just mentally estranged!
ReplyDeletenathenb- agreed
ReplyDeleteI agree that was really screwed up I think he wanted Hassan to punish him for not doing anything, he feels really guilty.
ReplyDeletewow jay you have been to jail?
ReplyDeletebut in a way Hassan is like in jail, serving them hand and foot and not having any rights
gage-
ReplyDeleteYa that scene was pretty screwed up how it all happen makes you think about wearing a chaste belt
Why didn't Amir help Hassan when he was being raped?
ReplyDeletewhy wouldnt he just beat him up really bad instead of raping him?
ReplyDeletei think he wanted to scar him for life and that was the best way he could think of because even if he just beat him up it all would have healed and been forgoten but this wont
ReplyDeletei think that when he was raped, it took away his childhood. like what Brendan said, it shows him the actual world and what its like.
ReplyDeleteWhy did Amir snap at Ali after he asked about the night of the kite?
ReplyDeleteAmir kept hurting Hassan because he wanted hassan to hit him back so that he would atg least feel part of the pain Hassan felt when he got raped so he wasnt so guilty
ReplyDeleteI agree with ryan assef is just screwed up!
ReplyDeleteWhy is Amir being such a jerk to Hassan? You would think he would want to be there for his friend?
ReplyDeleteCarlos- i agree with your thought of Hassan already being in jail. I think he doesn't think that he is in jail though.
ReplyDeleteI agree that it does seem to for shadow up coming events. On a tangent does any one other than myself want some more definition to some of the native words that don't translate as well? Just wondering.
ReplyDeletei dont get why assef whould rape hassan that just makes assef look like a queer. why couldnt assef just beat him up?
ReplyDeleteWhen Assef raped Hassan it was done as a racist thing to do because Assef doesnt like Hazara.
ReplyDeleteGarrettS-
ReplyDeleteI agree with you he should of just punch him in the face or kick him in the balls instead
I agree with lance
ReplyDeletei totally agree with lance about scarring him for life
ReplyDeletebut what would had happened if Amir would had stepped in?
Carlos- I have seen movies about jail that have shown scenes about the same thing that Hassan has gone through.
ReplyDeleteGarrettS
ReplyDeleteAssef wanted to scar Hassan because for who he is. Thats my guess since Assef hates him.
thoughts about why Baba treats Hassan different than a servant is becuse there is something more there in there family relationship.
ReplyDeleteGarrett, if he only beat him up, it wouldnt scar him for life, and he can recover from a bad beating, but not from being raped.
ReplyDeleteI think amir is jealous of hassan because his father understands hassan better than his own son.
ReplyDeleteI wonder if assef is homosexual because at least it would explain the joy he got out of raping Hassan what does everyone else think?
ReplyDeleteIts a weird situation in the fact that of all those different reactions of different people influencing each person.
ReplyDeleteAmir is trying to avoid Hassan because it would be awkward for them to talk about what happened. I doesn't help that Amir was able to help but didn't.
ReplyDeleteI dont think Assef felt gay about raping Hassan. Assef doesn't really believe that Hassan is human, he sees Hassan as something different.
ReplyDeleteThats a good question gage it would answer a lot of questions
ReplyDeleteI agree with lance. if Amir was just beaten up, it would have been forgotten about after his wounds healed but after being raped he wont ever forget about this event
ReplyDeleteGage I could see what your saying there yeah I would agree.
ReplyDeleteif he beat him up so he couldnt walk or something physical that could work instead of raping him because that makes assef look bad
ReplyDeleteWhy do you think that Baba never calls his son Amir Jan but he calls Assef and Hassan with that title? It seems like it's the only thing Amir really wants from his father but he can't have.
ReplyDeleteJustin- I think the reason for Amir's action is that he feels guilty for what happened to Hassan. He begins to make it look like he hates Hassan. A good example of this is when Amir was throwing the pomegranates at Hassan, I just don't get why he would do that?
ReplyDeleteAssef raped Hassan because of the time and place they live. it is weird how Assef will never think of himself as a queer or a fag but he will think of Hassan as one.
ReplyDeletegage
ReplyDeletei think that he is a homosexual as well, but what about his friends that helped him rape Hassan would they also be homosexuals
I find Baba kind of sick just because he can't truly love his own son unless his son succeeds but he finds it so easy to love hassan.
ReplyDeleteI think that Amir would have been raped too. alot of rapists get away with it because the victim wont testify against them if he had said something he would have gotten the same treatment.
ReplyDeletebenb, i think amir is trying to break hassan out of his shell. he wants hassan to display his emotions like himself
ReplyDeletei also think that Assef was hurt when he was a child, so he felt the anger andd had to pass it on to Hassan. maybe Assef was raped as a child.
ReplyDeletegage-
ReplyDeletemaybe he just closed his eyes and tried to think it was a girl or he's a homo or he doesn't get layed enough those are the only answer to that question
I don't get how Assef can just go to a party with Hassan there but pretend that nothing has ever happend
ReplyDeleteAssef isn't raping Hassan to get pleasure he is showing Hassan that he is stronger than him and that Hassan shouldn't try to mess with him.
ReplyDeleteI would agree with Ben that Amir feels guilty for what he saw and didn't step in.
ReplyDeleteI'm unclear on why Hassan had to rape Amir. there could have been multiple ways to effect him for life but he chose rape out of all of them. this may be forshadowing events later in the book about Hassans life as well as his thinking while he was doing this
ReplyDeleteWell garrett thats true but you also have to think that if assef just beat up hassan really badly it could easily trace back to him and someone would have done something. In this case though no one knows except amir so you could say he got away with what he did
ReplyDeleteTo Jays2012 comment.
ReplyDeleteI think that Baba isn't too respectfull to Amir because when Amir was born, Baba's wife died.
ryan- it's because he sees Hassan as an animal
ReplyDeleteJay- I think he calls them Assef jan and Hassan jan because he relates to them more than he does with Amir. They remind Baba of himself when he was younger. Plus, Amir is "responsable" with killing his wife.
ReplyDeleteI feel like Amir and Baba's relationship willfade because of Amir's selfish actions like when he lies about Hassan being sick so he can be alone with Baba. I think that their relationship will fade. Anyone have any comments on that?
ReplyDeleteCarlos i see what you are saying and i believe that assef's friends weren't gay because first of all they didn't want to do what assef did and they only helped him because they were scared of him.
ReplyDeleteAt the party he was harrassing him because he knew that he had hurt him and has alot of power over him.
ReplyDeleteasticka- this is a good theory, it is common when kids view life like their parents portray it. assef doesnt know any better.
ReplyDeleteSorry typo- Assef raped Hassan
ReplyDeleteMaybe Baba feels like amir hasnt earned the title of jan?
ReplyDeletehassan didnt rape amir Assef raped hassan
ReplyDeleteI agree with connerM its a good theory
ReplyDeleteben- that was already being shown at the end of the chapter, that they are moving apart
ReplyDeleteNathan- I also think that it's the thing that you always want, but you can never have. Like in Of Mice and Men, Lennie and George want to live on a ranch to escape life but they can never obtain that. It's the same for Amir because it's the only thing he really wants from his father. I also don't see why it's Amir's fault for Baba's wife dying because Amir didn't choose for his mother to die.
ReplyDeleteAssef probablly went to the party with Hassan to show that he is not safe. That an idea anyway.
ReplyDeleteLike Mason said, he now can harras him because he has total control over the situation.
ReplyDeleteassef was harassing hassan and Amir because he knew he could get away with it and no one would know what he was doing and i wonder if assef knows if anir knows about the rape?
ReplyDeleteHis father just wants a son who is good at everything he was good at. Anything less than that Baba dosent consider his son.
ReplyDeletebenb- i agree, amir and baba cant really connect. baba is dissapointed in amirs phemonen ways. Hassan and baba are more alike so amir is jealous of their connection.This will eventually kill the relationship between amir and hassan.
ReplyDeleteAssef only knows how to use rape as a method of controll becuse of what his father tells him.
ReplyDeleteDo you think Baba would even believe Amir if he told him what happened?
ReplyDeleteNathan B, thats a good point. baba might blame amir for his wifes death
ReplyDeleteResponding to Jacobs question, would this story differ in the United States?, I would have to say yes. In the US this would be a bigger deal and Assef could face major jail time as well as isolation from friends and family after the word gets out about what he did
ReplyDeleteJays2012, Amir didn't murder his mother, but in Baba's eyes, Amir killed his mother.
ReplyDeleteTo go along with the inner circle I don't think that Assef would have raped Hassan in America because the culture is much different and people in America would kind of figure out more about the situation.
ReplyDeletejay
ReplyDeleteI agree with that but when someone die's people just need someone to blame is just way people are
Justin- I don't think Baba would believe Amir he would probably think it's just one of his made up stories to get attention but I think Baba would beleive Hassan.
ReplyDeletethe thing that I find strange is Assef idolizes hitler but hitler hated homosexuals.
ReplyDeleteAgreed with rape is a mental and physical abuse
ReplyDeleteNathan- But Amir never had a say in it. It is something that just happened. He would never have intentionally killed his mother. Amir also has to live a life without a mother which is hard on any child to not a parent in their life.
ReplyDeleteI think Baba doesn't respect Amir probably because Amir is not like Baba when he was a kid, so he is disappointed.
ReplyDelete@Dominic
ReplyDeleteI think thats a good idea.
i agree with NathanB he didn't murder his mom, he stole her her life and Baba doesn't like that so he doesn't give him the title of Jan
ReplyDeleteMason- Assef isn't a homosexual. He raped Hassan to show power not because he is gay.
ReplyDeletebenb- yes, is is very incommon for a boy to rape another boy in america. If it were to happen the kid who raped the other would just be humiliated by others because he was the one who wanted to have sex with another dude.
ReplyDeleteexactly. He could have been raped as a child, so thats what he thought was the right thing to do, to show dominace.
ReplyDeleteMason has a good point i never noticed that.
ReplyDeleteOk I have a question, who is Agha sahib?
ReplyDeleteI would agree with Mason that Assef worshiping Hitler but being a homosexual.
ReplyDeleteto jacobs question. it would be different. our culture and the way our country works is far different than afganastan. he wouldn't do what he did because he would get in a mess of trouble.
ReplyDeleteThats a good point Mason, and I don't think Hitler would have ever done something like that Just like in the inner circle said Assef is very contradictory.
ReplyDeleteJays2012, Baba is trying to blame someone for the death of his wife. Amir didn't do anything wrong.
ReplyDeletejay come to think of it he isnt but does he think his idol would have aproved of what he did.
ReplyDeletejays2012
ReplyDeleteits also hard on the other parent and they want to blame someone and since the child was part of the death even though they had no intention to hurt their mother the parent finds it hard to not blame them.
ConnerM-
ReplyDeleteI agree with that paragraph
Looking at Dominics last post i'm not sure that its a matter of respect against disrespect but more just a feeling of disappointment in his son for not being like him.
ReplyDeletedominic, i second that.
ReplyDeleteNathan- So Baba doesn't want to face the pain of his wife's death so he blames someone else to take the pain away?
ReplyDeleteI noticed that Amir and Hassan together make a happy life. Amir was born into privilege and wealth, so from the material side Amir should be happy. Hassan gets the affection from Baba, so he is emotionally happy until thhe raping. What do you think?
ReplyDeleteMason- i think he would had been ok with it because he abused Hassan
ReplyDeletethats a good point dominic. Amir isn't living up to babas expectations so baba is disappointed
ReplyDeleteMason- Hitler killed people to show his power, and Assef raped Hassan to show his power. I think Hitler would have done the same if he was in the situation Assef was in.
ReplyDelete@jay
ReplyDeleteIf someone killed a member of your family that you considered very important, wouldnt you want to blame someone for it?
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