I was wondering; why is Amir so afraid of the General? Because none of these people have the powwer that they had in Afghanistan. Baba is a good example. So why would amir have anything to be scarred of.
Cody I believe Amir wanted to marry his grandfathers cousin because first of all he loves her and also inter-family marriage is sort of popular in their culture.
Dominic P- The way I see that Baba didn't want to get his cancer treated yes because he has to be strong for Amir but an bigger reason is that i guess he is just ready for death an that he knows that the cancer treatment will only make him live for a little longer
@Matt If you have had the same opinion of someone for a long period of time, you tend to keep that opinion even if they are not in the same position that they used to be.
“Almost two years had passed since we had arrived in the U.S., and I was still marveling at the size of this country, it's vastness” Why do you think this is so? I think it's because it's so Different than Kabul and they don't know how to react to it
Dominic- I think the reason that Baba doesnt want to get his cancer treated is that the culture that they live in is different than the one that we live in. In Baba and Amir's culture it is honorable to be strong. I think Baba also wants to be strong for Amir, like Dominic said.
Anthony- I think Baba just thinks that cancer will make him seem like he is a weak person, and people will give him so much pity, and he dosent want that.
Thats a good point Cody, I agree that Baba doesn't want to show weakness, probably because he is scared his family and friends will not look at him the same, which of course is not true.
Well with Babas cancer there was not much they could do because there was not much medical technology and it would only slow it down for a little bit not stop it.
Matt- It's like having a girlfriend with an overprotective father. You never know what ex-military men might do, right? Earlier in the book, They said Iranians would pat your back with one hand, and pick your pocket with the other. Overprotective fathers will back your back with one hand, and shoot you in the head with the other if they think ill of you.
Dominic- The reason I think that Baba doesn't want to cure his cancer is maybe something about religion and how its his time to go, like in chapter 12 when his talking about nang and namoos which means honor and pride.
@Hunter I agree with your comment. Noone else in my family knew my aunt had cancer until it was already severe enough to be life threatening. She didn't tell anyone because she didn't want people to be worried about her.
I have to disagree with Dominic, i don't think it has to do with being strong for Amir, but his life has been pretty perfect and he is in denial about the fact that god is trying to steal Amir's right to a father.
Peter- Yes I agree with that, but the General is no longer the man he used to be. He has a different job, a different house and a different life. As do all afghans. So why cling to the past?
Carlos- I think he thinks that it is so big because of how more modernized the country is then his old home. Also he probably thinks that it is so big because America is really big.
Nathan- I agree. Cancer is the one thing that is going to take Baba away from life. Baba never gives up on anything. He was always the leader that people looked up to. On page 157 it says, "For a while, even cancer couldn't keep Baba from the flea market." It shows that Baba always fights to the very end but he knows eventually the cancer will kill him.
Gabe- thats a good point because maybe he beleives it is his time to go and he doesnt want to stop it or slow it down and he wants to be strong for his family.
Gabe- you make a good point, and to add on to that though I don't think Baba wants the kemo therapy or any other treatment because if you recall the doctor said that any treatment would only prolong the time before his death, so I bet he doesn't want to waste the time because in the end he is going to die earlier than he wanted to.
I totally agree with Anthony; just because you have cancer it doesn't make you weak. but it can make the people around you weak from having to do so much for a person that they know is destined for another world.
to Carlos' comment, It might actually have to do with him trying to make amir be strong. He doesn't want amir to know so he has cancer so amir can still be strong. If amir knew, he would be sad and afraid. Baba doesn't want that.
Dominic- Baba prpbably doesnt want to go to the doctor to get treated because he knows Amir it would do Amir good. Baba has always been worried about Amir. He doesnt have any pride; With Baba dead Amir could face life head on and learn to function by himself. Do you think there is a possibility that Amir can handle that Emotionaly?
Cody M- I think the reason Amir is willing to marry one of his grandfathers cousins is because the culture differential in Afghanistan is very different to our culture. Family members can marry each other in their culture unlike ours, which would bring shame to the families of the new married couple.
Dominic- another reason why he didn't treat it is that showing the strongest person in the family is hooked on tubs an all this stuff on them will make the family think twice about the strongest person in the family is now the weakest thats not what you want Peter- agreeing with what he said that about how her aunt didn't tell anyone because its less of a worry on the family
Jacob- I think that The Kite Runner does relate to the American dream, because they move to America after the Russians invaded and go to find a better life, but it didn't come fast.
Jacob- I think the American Dream made Baba and Amir think that everything was perfect in America but it shows that it's not. Baba gets cancer and can't adjust to the lifestyle in America, which leads to him being in pain. For Amir, I think that America is the place full of dreams. He has a steady life in America. He graduated high school, went to College, and it preparing to write stories. He is going to marry a woman and it seems to me like things are going his way.
jacobs2012- No I don't think so. Because Amir has become a success and Baba has a job fixing cars. they have a home they have two cars and a bright future for Amir.
Jacob- I think the American dream relates to chapter 11 because you can always find something to do to make money and have a life, like how Amir and Baba go our to garage sales and sell the stuff they get at a flea market.Going out to garage sales is Babas life now that he isnt a wealthy person and need s a way to socialize and make money.
Gage- I agree with what you said about The Kite Runner does relate to the American dream, Russia sucks so the have to move to America to have a much better life
Baba is diagnosed with inoperable lung cancer. He chooses to not get medical attention. Why does he not want medical attention? Does he want to die peacefully and naturally, or have a slow painful death with a slim chance of recovery? Although he doesn't want to give his "head of household" position to Amir yet, why doesn't he accept medical treatment and try to prolong his life?
Jake I would disagree with you. If Baba was hiding cancer from Amir, he would've known that their is something wrong with Baba. Also I would think that its hard to not show that your not sick.
Nathan- I call my father by his first name but I still respect him. But why would you still call someone a general when they are not a general anymore.
Jacob- Is there such thing as the American dream anymore? Most of the people who come to America to get a better quality of life end up in poverty. I don't believe in the American dream, and anyone who does is just getting their hopes up.
Kevin D- An ulcer is a "wound" in the stomach from the stomach acid. The stress of being in America for Baba makes the stomach produce more acid which eats through the stomach lining.
Jacob i disagree with Gabe, I think that in the Kite Runner it's more like the American Nightmare. I think it's like an American nightmare because in Iran they had such a good and rich life, and now they live in a small building with no servants and Baba works at a gas station. Second of all Baba got cancer in America. But even though America was bad for them it did do some good because Amir is getting married and he got to get some good schooling.
Anthony- I think the American Dream is the thing that people always picture America has, but can never obtain. It's an unobtainable goal like the ranch in Of Mice and Men. It is the meaning to strive and try harder to reach the goal. I don't think they know that it is unobtainable so that is why they keep trying and don't give up.
Jacob- I think maybe that Baba dosent want to get treated because he wants to show his strength and defeat the cancer. Almost like how in the book it says that Baba wrestled a bear. I think maybe this cancer is just another bear for him to wrestle.
I think that Baba is really over protective over Amir. As Andy said in the inner circle, Baba was afraid to let Amir go to buy a soda as well as not telling him about the cancer. Baba might also want to be honorable about his sickness and not let Amir make the same mistakes he made (smoking), which ultimately caused his cancer.
Jacob- As I said to Dominic I think that Baba does want to die peaceful and naturally like in chapter 12 when he is talking about his pride and honor, but also he doesn't want Amir to see him just give up and try the medical treatment.
Sean, I don't think Baba properly raised Amir causing him to not be ready for his death because it seems that Amir thrives on Baba's approval so i think Amir will be devastated by Baba' death.
Do you think Baba is just not telling anyone because he still is in shock an doesn't believe he has cancer so he doesn't tell anyone because he doesn't want to worry them because if it turns out that he doesn't have it that all that of the worrying for is family for nothing
Sean- I think that Amir will have to be ready to face Baba's death. It will be the final test to see if Amir is a man. If Amir can deal with the death, it will show that he is a stronger man than his father ever though he was and that is the only way he can be able to live without Baba.
@Jake If Baba does die and Amir becomes the man of the house, will he accept it? Through out the book Amir has demonstrated that he is cowardly. What Will Amir do when Baba dies?
Ryan- I think Amir isn't relived because his father has just started to really like and appreciate Amir for who he is, because now it seems liek they are very good friends because they do everything together.
Jacob- i think he doesn't want to get medical attention because it shows weakness. He would rather die peacefully which shows another reason why they left Kabul, he doesn't like wars. I think he doesn't want to make him a "head of the household" because Amir doesn't have a house to be the head of and a way to be ready for that is to start a family and learn as you go.
Matt- I disagree with you. I think Chapter 11 does relate to the American Dream because although they do have a shimmer of hope towards a good life, Baba is diagnosed with cancer. Amir is going to have a tough time without Baba because when his father dies he is going to take on alot of responsibility. Which is going to be hard for him to cope with so his future might be a little dark.
I see where your coming from Cody but do you think Baba realizes that cancer even though smaller than a bear is totally different and something much harder and different to fight off.
To kinda add on to Jake's comment even though if Baba dies, and Amir became the "man of the house" its probably going to take Amir awhile for him to be the man of the house. My idea of becoming the man of the house is to stand up for others and himself.
Peter I do not think Amir could be the "man" of the house because like you said, he has been know as a "coward" and he seems to be very emotional through out the book. But who would be the "man" of the house if Baba where to die?
Ryan- i think he is a little relieved Baba is dying because they just don't get along and i think Amir is tired of Baba bossing him around even though he is a man.
A good dad is someone who is there for their child and who teaches them the ways of the world and sets them up as best they can so when they go their child is not necessarily alone in the world. He also teaches them all they know and makes them learn from their mistakes but still being fair to them.
Jacob2012 Reply: Baba has too much pride to show fear in front of Amir. Back around chapter 3, Baba notices that Amir has no pride when he watches Amir get pushed around by the neighborhood kids. Amir just stood there and gave himself to them. Baba is scared that Amir is too Vulnerable to last in life.
Gage- I think that a good dad is some one who is there for you and appreciates you unlike in the beginning of the kite runner where Baba would just grunt and not even act like Amir was there.
I disagree with Hunter even though he makes a good point, Amir may be wimpy but he is smart so I believe he will be able to run the house, even though it will take some time to get used to.
Gage I think a good dad is when he is there and supports you on what you want to do and he teaches you about life. Also I think that Baba had many of the characteristics up there meaning he was a good dad.
jacobs2012- "The pursuit of happiness" That is the American Dream. Sure they have some problems, but they have a life they would never be able to have in Afghanistan. Don't get me wrong their house and their servants were perfect examples of a good life, but they have bigger and better rights in America.
Jake- I think that Amir will be the man of the house. Although he has been shown as a coward for the first 12 chapters, I think this is where he will break out of his shell and finally take control for not only himself but for others since he is marrying Soraya.
Carlos- Are you saying Amir is ok with Baba slowly dying??? Also do you think Amir will be ok with Baba dying because Amir is annoyed with Baba is so hard on him???
After watching Baba's examples throughout Amir's life, I think that once Amir has to be the man of the house he will step up as the man and follow the things that Baba has done to create a better life for both, Amir and himself, overall.
Ryan- I agree that it does seem to relate towards Khaled Hosseini's life. I think Mrs. Leclaire said that some of the events in this story even though it was fiction. Could this tie into our memoir projects because Khaled Hosseini is writing a somewhat true but fictional story?
Gabe- You mention two things, he supports you and teaches you about life. Baba only did one of those things and it was about stealing things and how that was the only sin. But Baba wasn't supporting him when he was reading or when he wanted to become a writer, Baba only brought up questions and no support.
Ryan I think that Khaled Hosseeini put many of the things he saw over there and decided to make a story about it, but a lot of the things in there happened to him probably.
Baba Dying might be the final transition for Amir to go and experience the harsh things in life. Maybe the fact that Baba dies finally makes it so Baba cant controll him anymore and that leads to Amir going on His "heroes journey".
I would agree with jay2012 because Amir has break his out of his shell to stand strong.Once he gains that from there hes on the right path of being a husband and a father.
I agree with Hunter. Amir completed high school at 20. Yep he's the smartest guy ever. And he's going to college to be a writer, even though he knows he has a small chance to ever become wealthy. Good career choice too.
Mrs. Leclaire Reply; A good dad prepares his son for the harshness of life.He should teach his son to love; he should also teach him to strive for something or someone they love. A good dad can connect with his kid.
Landon, I don't think Amir will find it in him to add up to Baba in any way at all- he gave that chance up in the alley when he lacked the courage to save Hassan before he was raped by Assef. On the flip side, maybe he'll be a whole new breed of animal. Or nothing- What do the rest of you fine fellows think?
ConnorM- I agree with your comment. Amir does not stand up for himself, or anyone. He is spineless, and weakhearted. Baba tried to father him as best he could but Baba is the opposite of Amir. Baba gives up on trying to change him and this disheartens Amir. Amir thinks his father does not love him because he killed his wife when he was born. But really, its just because of a personality conflict.
Thats a good point but once again I disagree with you Hunter. I think that smarts can run a household because most of running a household is using your money wisely and Amir is smart enough spend his money wisely, mostly because he was raised around allot of money and little money so he knows what both scenarios are about.
Carlos although what you said is right I still think that he was supportive of him but was trying to see if he could push him to becoming something else so he could make more money.
Jake- Amir slowly killed his friendship with Hassan and didn't really care for some reason, and Hassan was more of a friend than Baba, so why wouldn't he care if Baba died slowly. He doesn't really care about anyone except his dads respect but he knows he will never get it.
Carlos- But remember Amir wanted his father and him to have the connection that Baba had with Hassan. Amir wasn't much like his father and he wanted his father to be proud of him. If you remember during the kite running competition, he kept looking at his father to see if he was proud.
@Kevin Maby that was Baba's Intent. Perhaps Baba set such a high standard in the hopes that Ami would attempt to imitate it, and would arrive at the point where he could be considered a good man.
Why did Baba not want to get his cancer treated? My guess he thinks he has to be strong for Amir.
ReplyDeleteWhy do you think Baba didn't want anyone to know that he had cancer?
ReplyDeleteI wonder why Amir would want to marry a girl whos mom is his grandfathers cousin. Which probably would make them related.
ReplyDeleteI was wondering; why is Amir so afraid of the General? Because none of these people have the powwer that they had in Afghanistan. Baba is a good example. So why would amir have anything to be scarred of.
ReplyDeleteMornin' gents. Lets do this!
ReplyDeleteDominic, Baba didn't want to get chemotherapy because the cancer was terminal and chemotherapy would only let him live an extra few months.
ReplyDeleteGage- I think that Baba dosent want anyone to know he has cancer, because he dosent want to be seen as a weak person.
ReplyDeleteCody I believe Amir wanted to marry his grandfathers cousin because first of all he loves her and also inter-family marriage is sort of popular in their culture.
ReplyDeleteDominic P-
ReplyDeleteThe way I see that Baba didn't want to get his cancer treated yes because he has to be strong for Amir but an bigger reason is that i guess he is just ready for death an that he knows that the cancer treatment will only make him live for a little longer
Cody- Just because you have cancer, it doesn't make you weak.
ReplyDelete@Matt
ReplyDeleteIf you have had the same opinion of someone for a long period of time, you tend to keep that opinion even if they are not in the same position that they used to be.
“Almost two years had passed since we had arrived in the U.S., and I was still marveling at the size of this country, it's vastness”
ReplyDeleteWhy do you think this is so?
I think it's because it's so Different than Kabul and they don't know how to react to it
gage-
ReplyDeletehe doesn't want anyone knowing because he doesn't want to worry anyone thats the last thing you want to happen
Dominic-
ReplyDeleteI think the reason that Baba doesnt want to get his cancer treated is that the culture that they live in is different than the one that we live in. In Baba and Amir's culture it is honorable to be strong. I think Baba also wants to be strong for Amir, like Dominic said.
Anthony- I think Baba just thinks that cancer will make him seem like he is a weak person, and people will give him so much pity, and he dosent want that.
ReplyDeleteThats a good point Cody, I agree that Baba doesn't want to show weakness, probably because he is scared his family and friends will not look at him the same, which of course is not true.
ReplyDeleteWell with Babas cancer there was not much they could do because there was not much medical technology and it would only slow it down for a little bit not stop it.
ReplyDeleteMatt-
ReplyDeleteIt's like having a girlfriend with an overprotective father. You never know what ex-military men might do, right? Earlier in the book, They said Iranians would pat your back with one hand, and pick your pocket with the other. Overprotective fathers will back your back with one hand, and shoot you in the head with the other if they think ill of you.
Anthonyf2012, Having cancer isn't a weakness, but it may seem like a weakness when you know the cancer will kill you
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ReplyDeleteDominic-
ReplyDeleteThe reason I think that Baba doesn't want to cure his cancer is maybe something about religion and how its his time to go, like in chapter 12 when his talking about nang and namoos which means honor and pride.
@Hunter
ReplyDeleteI agree with your comment. Noone else in my family knew my aunt had cancer until it was already severe enough to be life threatening. She didn't tell anyone because she didn't want people to be worried about her.
I have to disagree with Dominic, i don't think it has to do with being strong for Amir, but his life has been pretty perfect and he is in denial about the fact that god is trying to steal Amir's right to a father.
ReplyDeletePeter- Yes I agree with that, but the General is no longer the man he used to be. He has a different job, a different house and a different life. As do all afghans. So why cling to the past?
ReplyDeleteCarlos- I think he thinks that it is so big because of how more modernized the country is then his old home. Also he probably thinks that it is so big because America is really big.
ReplyDeleteNathan-
ReplyDeleteI agree. Cancer is the one thing that is going to take Baba away from life. Baba never gives up on anything. He was always the leader that people looked up to. On page 157 it says, "For a while, even cancer couldn't keep Baba from the flea market." It shows that Baba always fights to the very end but he knows eventually the cancer will kill him.
Gabe-
ReplyDeletethats a good point because maybe he beleives it is his time to go and he doesnt want to stop it or slow it down and he wants to be strong for his family.
How does The American dream relate to The Kite Runner in Chapter 11 and does the American dream come back to punish Baba and Amir?
ReplyDeleteI think Baba was hiding his cancer from Aamir because he wanted to look like a strong role model and didn't want Amir sad.
ReplyDeleteMatt P-Their way of life has changed, but out of respect, they still call him General
ReplyDeleteGabe- you make a good point, and to add on to that though I don't think Baba wants the kemo therapy or any other treatment because if you recall the doctor said that any treatment would only prolong the time before his death, so I bet he doesn't want to waste the time because in the end he is going to die earlier than he wanted to.
ReplyDeleteI totally agree with Anthony; just because you have cancer it doesn't make you weak. but it can make the people around you weak from having to do so much for a person that they know is destined for another world.
ReplyDeleteto Carlos' comment,
ReplyDeleteIt might actually have to do with him trying to make amir be strong. He doesn't want amir to know so he has cancer so amir can still be strong. If amir knew, he would be sad and afraid. Baba doesn't want that.
Dominic-
ReplyDeleteBaba prpbably doesnt want to go to the doctor to get treated because he knows Amir it would do Amir good. Baba has always been worried about Amir. He doesnt have any pride; With Baba dead Amir could face life head on and learn to function by himself. Do you think there is a possibility that Amir can handle that Emotionaly?
Cody M-
ReplyDeleteI think the reason Amir is willing to marry one of his grandfathers cousins is because the culture differential in Afghanistan is very different to our culture. Family members can marry each other in their culture unlike ours, which would bring shame to the families of the new married couple.
Dominic-
ReplyDeleteanother reason why he didn't treat it is that showing the strongest person in the family is hooked on tubs an all this stuff on them will make the family think twice about the strongest person in the family is now the weakest thats not what you want
Peter-
agreeing with what he said that about how her aunt didn't tell anyone because its less of a worry on the family
Jacob-
ReplyDeleteI think that The Kite Runner does relate to the American dream, because they move to America after the Russians invaded and go to find a better life, but it didn't come fast.
Jacob-
ReplyDeleteI think the American Dream made Baba and Amir think that everything was perfect in America but it shows that it's not. Baba gets cancer and can't adjust to the lifestyle in America, which leads to him being in pain. For Amir, I think that America is the place full of dreams. He has a steady life in America. He graduated high school, went to College, and it preparing to write stories. He is going to marry a woman and it seems to me like things are going his way.
jacobs2012- No I don't think so. Because Amir has become a success and Baba has a job fixing cars. they have a home they have two cars and a bright future for Amir.
ReplyDeleteJacob- I think the American dream relates to chapter 11 because you can always find something to do to make money and have a life, like how Amir and Baba go our to garage sales and sell the stuff they get at a flea market.Going out to garage sales is Babas life now that he isnt a wealthy person and need s a way to socialize and make money.
ReplyDeleteQuick question, what exactly IS an ulcer, and how does one GET an ulcer?
ReplyDeleteLandon-
ReplyDeleteGood point because in their culture marrying someone close to you in your family is not really a bad thing and no one thinks it is wierd.
Gage-
ReplyDeleteI agree with what you said about The Kite Runner does relate to the American dream, Russia sucks so the have to move to America to have a much better life
ConnorM- I think Amir will be able to handle life after Baba's death because he will have tohandle life.
ReplyDeleteBaba is diagnosed with inoperable lung cancer. He chooses to not get medical attention. Why does he not want medical attention? Does he want to die peacefully and naturally, or have a slow painful death with a slim chance of recovery? Although he doesn't want to give his "head of household" position to Amir yet, why doesn't he accept medical treatment and try to prolong his life?
ReplyDeleteJake I would disagree with you. If Baba was hiding cancer from Amir, he would've known that their is something wrong with Baba. Also I would think that its hard to not show that your not sick.
ReplyDeleteNathan- I call my father by his first name but I still respect him. But why would you still call someone a general when they are not a general anymore.
ReplyDeleteKevin- I think an ulcer is some type of lump that you get, and you can get them from having a lot of stress in your life.
ReplyDeleteJacob- Is there such thing as the American dream anymore? Most of the people who come to America to get a better quality of life end up in poverty. I don't believe in the American dream, and anyone who does is just getting their hopes up.
ReplyDeleteDo you think Amir will be able to handle Baba's death? Will he have enough to handle it, or will he be devastated?
ReplyDeleteKevin D- An ulcer is a "wound" in the stomach from the stomach acid. The stress of being in America for Baba makes the stomach produce more acid which eats through the stomach lining.
ReplyDeleteAn ulcer is a hole in your stomach and you get it from stress or a certain illness and can lead to cancer.
ReplyDeleteJacob i disagree with Gabe, I think that in the Kite Runner it's more like the American Nightmare. I think it's like an American nightmare because in Iran they had such a good and rich life, and now they live in a small building with no servants and Baba works at a gas station. Second of all Baba got cancer in America. But even though America was bad for them it did do some good because Amir is getting married and he got to get some good schooling.
ReplyDelete@Kevin-
ReplyDeletePeptic ulcer disease refers to painful sores or ulcers in the lining of the stomach or first part of the small intestine, called the duodenum.
http://www.webmd.com/digestive-disorders/digestive-diseases-peptic-ulcer-disease
Thinking forward in the book I think Baba will eventually die and then Amir will be the "man" of the house.
ReplyDeleteAnthony-
ReplyDeleteI think the American Dream is the thing that people always picture America has, but can never obtain. It's an unobtainable goal like the ranch in Of Mice and Men. It is the meaning to strive and try harder to reach the goal. I don't think they know that it is unobtainable so that is why they keep trying and don't give up.
Jacob- I think maybe that Baba dosent want to get treated because he wants to show his strength and defeat the cancer. Almost like how in the book it says that Baba wrestled a bear. I think maybe this cancer is just another bear for him to wrestle.
ReplyDeleteI think that Baba is really over protective over Amir. As Andy said in the inner circle, Baba was afraid to let Amir go to buy a soda as well as not telling him about the cancer. Baba might also want to be honorable about his sickness and not let Amir make the same mistakes he made (smoking), which ultimately caused his cancer.
ReplyDeleteDoes anyone think that amir could be relived his father is dieing there relationship seems to have been strained sents Amir was a child.
ReplyDeleteSean- I don't know. Do you think Amir would be able to handle his friend being raped without doing anything?
ReplyDeleteJacob-
ReplyDeleteAs I said to Dominic I think that Baba does want to die peaceful and naturally like in chapter 12 when he is talking about his pride and honor, but also he doesn't want Amir to see him just give up and try the medical treatment.
Sean, I don't think Baba properly raised Amir causing him to not be ready for his death because it seems that Amir thrives on Baba's approval so i think Amir will be devastated by Baba' death.
ReplyDeleteMatt P- If you were a powerful general and then you moved to another country, wouldn't you still want to be called general?
ReplyDeleteDo you think Baba is just not telling anyone because he still is in shock an doesn't believe he has cancer so he doesn't tell anyone because he doesn't want to worry them because if it turns out that he doesn't have it that all that of the worrying for is family for nothing
ReplyDeleteSean-
ReplyDeleteI think that Amir will have to be ready to face Baba's death. It will be the final test to see if Amir is a man. If Amir can deal with the death, it will show that he is a stronger man than his father ever though he was and that is the only way he can be able to live without Baba.
Sean- Amir is like 21, he's a man. He isn't a boy anymore. I think if he is mature and a real man, he could handle Baba's death
ReplyDeleteJake,
ReplyDeleteDo you think Amir has enough guts to be the man of the house?
@Jake
ReplyDeleteIf Baba does die and Amir becomes the man of the house, will he accept it? Through out the book Amir has demonstrated that he is cowardly. What Will Amir do when Baba dies?
Ryan- I think Amir isn't relived because his father has just started to really like and appreciate Amir for who he is, because now it seems liek they are very good friends because they do everything together.
ReplyDeleteJacob-
ReplyDeletei think he doesn't want to get medical attention because it shows weakness. He would rather die peacefully which shows another reason why they left Kabul, he doesn't like wars. I think he doesn't want to make him a "head of the household" because Amir doesn't have a house to be the head of and a way to be ready for that is to start a family and learn as you go.
I think Amir will neither be ready or devastated by Babas death. He will accept it but he wont know what to do.
ReplyDeleteMatt-
ReplyDeleteI disagree with you. I think Chapter 11 does relate to the American Dream because although they do have a shimmer of hope towards a good life, Baba is diagnosed with cancer. Amir is going to have a tough time without Baba because when his father dies he is going to take on alot of responsibility. Which is going to be hard for him to cope with so his future might be a little dark.
I see where your coming from Cody but do you think Baba realizes that cancer even though smaller than a bear is totally different and something much harder and different to fight off.
ReplyDeleteRyan I don't think that Amir wants Baba to die because they love each other and Amir has always tried to spend as much time with Baba.
ReplyDeleteWhat do you guys think makes a good dad?
ReplyDeleteTo kinda add on to Jake's comment even though if Baba dies, and Amir became the "man of the house" its probably going to take Amir awhile for him to be the man of the house. My idea of becoming the man of the house is to stand up for others and himself.
ReplyDeletejake-
ReplyDeletedo you really think that Amir will run the house his a wimp
In regards to Mrs. Leclaire's question, I believe he should be a good example, understanding, but still enforce the rules he has set for his son.
ReplyDeletePeter_L- I think that Amir will get a job and continue writing after Baba dies.
ReplyDeleteJay,
ReplyDeleteGood comment. I agree that this will be Amir's final test.
Peter
ReplyDeleteI do not think Amir could be the "man" of the house because like you said, he has been know as a "coward" and he seems to be very emotional through out the book. But who would be the "man" of the house if Baba where to die?
think in the upcoming chapters Amir will step up to the plate and show responsibility in his own way.
ReplyDeleteRyan-
ReplyDeletei think he is a little relieved Baba is dying because they just don't get along and i think Amir is tired of Baba bossing him around even though he is a man.
A good dad is someone who is there for their child and who teaches them the ways of the world and sets them up as best they can so when they go their child is not necessarily alone in the world. He also teaches them all they know and makes them learn from their mistakes but still being fair to them.
ReplyDeleteJacob2012 Reply:
ReplyDeleteBaba has too much pride to show fear in front of Amir. Back around chapter 3, Baba notices that Amir has no pride when he watches Amir get pushed around by the neighborhood kids. Amir just stood there and gave himself to them. Baba is scared that Amir is too Vulnerable to last in life.
Gage- I think that a good dad is some one who is there for you and appreciates you unlike in the beginning of the kite runner where Baba would just grunt and not even act like Amir was there.
ReplyDeleteI disagree with Hunter even though he makes a good point, Amir may be wimpy but he is smart so I believe he will be able to run the house, even though it will take some time to get used to.
ReplyDeleteGage I think a good dad is when he is there and supports you on what you want to do and he teaches you about life. Also I think that Baba had many of the characteristics up there meaning he was a good dad.
ReplyDeleteDoes the fact that Amir is a writer ring a bell that it might be similar to Khaled Hosseini's life?
ReplyDeleteGage
ReplyDeleteWhat I think makes a good dad is always being there for your children like when Baba did when he watches over Amir or spend time with Amir.
jacobs2012- "The pursuit of happiness" That is the American Dream. Sure they have some problems, but they have a life they would never be able to have in Afghanistan. Don't get me wrong their house and their servants were perfect examples of a good life, but they have bigger and better rights in America.
ReplyDeleteGage,
ReplyDeleteA good dad should be a guy that is caring, a good role model, and should help you through the problems of your life.
Gage-
ReplyDeleteA good dad is one that is there for your family an watches your family an only drinks 4 glasses of beer or rum instead of 7
Jake-
ReplyDeleteI think that Amir will be the man of the house. Although he has been shown as a coward for the first 12 chapters, I think this is where he will break out of his shell and finally take control for not only himself but for others since he is marrying Soraya.
Carlos-
ReplyDeleteAre you saying Amir is ok with Baba slowly dying??? Also do you think Amir will be ok with Baba dying because Amir is annoyed with Baba is so hard on him???
After watching Baba's examples throughout Amir's life, I think that once Amir has to be the man of the house he will step up as the man and follow the things that Baba has done to create a better life for both, Amir and himself, overall.
ReplyDeletegage-
ReplyDeleteHe won't be able to run the house smarts only gets you so far he doesn't even have enough smarts to run the house
Well Ryan,
ReplyDeleteA writer's stories are sometimes based on real events, so it is possible. this could be based on events in the authors life.
Ryan- I agree that it does seem to relate towards Khaled Hosseini's life. I think Mrs. Leclaire said that some of the events in this story even though it was fiction. Could this tie into our memoir projects because Khaled Hosseini is writing a somewhat true but fictional story?
ReplyDeleteGabe-
ReplyDeleteYou mention two things, he supports you and teaches you about life. Baba only did one of those things and it was about stealing things and how that was the only sin. But Baba wasn't supporting him when he was reading or when he wanted to become a writer, Baba only brought up questions and no support.
Ryan I think that Khaled Hosseeini put many of the things he saw over there and decided to make a story about it, but a lot of the things in there happened to him probably.
ReplyDeletePeter-
ReplyDeleteI agree with you... Although i think Amir and the family will talk or argue about how he needs to man up. But I do agree with you
Hunter- Soon after Baba dies it will be hard for Amir to run the household. Amir will have to step up and run the hosehold.
ReplyDeleteBaba Dying might be the final transition for Amir to go and experience the harsh things in life. Maybe the fact that Baba dies finally makes it so Baba cant controll him anymore and that leads to Amir going on His "heroes journey".
ReplyDeleteMy bad I didn't finish my sentence in my last comment. It meant to say
ReplyDeleteI think Mrs. Leclaire said some of the events in the story are true even though it's a fiction book.
Gage- I think even though Amir is smart he needs to have street smarts to survive and run a house.
ReplyDeleteI would agree with jay2012 because Amir has break his out of his shell to stand strong.Once he gains that from there hes on the right path of being a husband and a father.
ReplyDeleteI agree with Hunter. Amir completed high school at 20. Yep he's the smartest guy ever. And he's going to college to be a writer, even though he knows he has a small chance to ever become wealthy. Good career choice too.
ReplyDeleteMrs. Leclaire Reply;
ReplyDeleteA good dad prepares his son for the harshness of life.He should teach his son to love; he should also teach him to strive for something or someone they love. A good dad can connect with his kid.
Jay, Very good point I didnt even think about the Memoir Projects!!!
ReplyDeleteLandon,
ReplyDeleteI don't think Amir will find it in him to add up to Baba in any way at all- he gave that chance up in the alley when he lacked the courage to save Hassan before he was raped by Assef. On the flip side, maybe he'll be a whole new breed of animal. Or nothing- What do the rest of you fine fellows think?
ConnorM- I agree with your comment. Amir does not stand up for himself, or anyone. He is spineless, and weakhearted. Baba tried to father him as best he could but Baba is the opposite of Amir. Baba gives up on trying to change him and this disheartens Amir. Amir thinks his father does not love him because he killed his wife when he was born. But really, its just because of a personality conflict.
ReplyDeleteThats a good point but once again I disagree with you Hunter. I think that smarts can run a household because most of running a household is using your money wisely and Amir is smart enough spend his money wisely, mostly because he was raised around allot of money and little money so he knows what both scenarios are about.
ReplyDeleteCarlos although what you said is right I still think that he was supportive of him but was trying to see if he could push him to becoming something else so he could make more money.
ReplyDeleteJake-
ReplyDeleteAmir slowly killed his friendship with Hassan and didn't really care for some reason, and Hassan was more of a friend than Baba, so why wouldn't he care if Baba died slowly. He doesn't really care about anyone except his dads respect but he knows he will never get it.
Nathen-
ReplyDeletewell you don't know if he will step up or just choke on the responsibility
I agree with Cody... Which is why he is more emotional and he is not very "manly" because he is just book smart but not "street smart".
ReplyDeleteDo you think Amir will visit or find Hassan, Ali or Rahim Khan in the nearby future? Why or why not?
ReplyDeleteLandon, i think the fact that Amir couldn't stand up to his demons back in the day open it up for him to redeem himself some how in his current life.
ReplyDeleteCarlos-
ReplyDeleteBut remember Amir wanted his father and him to have the connection that Baba had with Hassan. Amir wasn't much like his father and he wanted his father to be proud of him. If you remember during the kite running competition, he kept looking at his father to see if he was proud.
@Kevin
ReplyDeleteMaby that was Baba's Intent. Perhaps Baba set such a high standard in the hopes that Ami would attempt to imitate it, and would arrive at the point where he could be considered a good man.
Jake- i agree with you book smarts only will get you into a good school not beat up kids
ReplyDeleteKevin I think He will find Rahim Khan but not hassan
ReplyDeleteMatt-
ReplyDeleteIt seems as if they did have plenty of rights in Afghanistan. i never heard anything about surpression.
Kevin I think that Amir will visit all of them because he still has things to get out.
ReplyDeleteRomo please blow your noise its bugging me
ReplyDeleteby gabe